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November 19, 2006

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"First it will be envy, next will be anger, then it will be hatred and ultimately, revolt and chaos."

Sound like Communism :-)

I agree that the rich-poor divide is not good for the stability of the society but classical capitalism is about market freedom. The divide is neccessary in order to drive others to higher economic height.

I suppose the most people wants in the deepest in their heart wanted economic equality yet but also want avoid the failure of a centralized planned economy under communisim.

If the help package for the poor helps them earn money out of govt services, do you thinking 7% GST is too much? hehe!
http://dogahowl.blogspot.com/

" ...we KNOW mathematically that they (the poor) are the least affected. "

Refering to your above quote..how did you conclude that the poor are least affected by the GST which is regressive in nature?

For a poor man (household income) earning $1000 per month and spent $800. He has to pay $40 (5% gst) or $56 (7% gst).

which is 4% of his income and 5.6% of his income respectively.

For the rich tai tai whos husband earning is $10000 and spend $6000 per month. he has to pay ($300 5% gst) and ($420 7% gst) which is 3% and 4.2% of his household income.

and furthermore, the poor man family is spending most of his money on things which are essetial. and the rich tai tai are spending most of her husband's money for non-essentials... which the rich tai tai can choose to 'cut back'...and not for the poor man...

Read the link below for more calculation...

http://aaron-ng.info/blog/robbing-peter-to-pay-peter.html

Dear Scratcher,

Sorry it took such a long time to reply to your excellent comment. My dad used to tell me this "Always stay within your area of competence and you won't look like a fool!" I obviously made some motherhood statements in my blog (the kind the civil servants are very fond of (e.g. The only constant is change.. yuck yuck yuck). The statement "...we KNOW mathematically that they (the poor) are the least affected" is certainly not within my area of competency.

Upon further research, some tax experts and economists told me that GST can be viewed as regressive. The worst impact is that businessmen raise prices on the pretext of GST. A $0.20 increase of a cup of $0.70 coffee is more than 2% and it has more impact to a poor family than a rich family, which buy Starbucks anyway :-) So there is obvious validity in your argument. Having said all that, in the coming months, what the government needs to show is how the extra tax revenue is put to good use to help the poor and the sandwitched class.

While reading up on this matter, I came across a funny story. An economist told me this "Do you know why tax experts are paid much more than ecnomists?"
Answer - Economists based their predictions on economic laws and equations while tax experts are governed by Accounting Standards. But Accounting Standards can be re-interpreted to suit the client. Therefore, tax experts make more money :-)

Doesn't matter if you're rich or poor.Starbucks coffee sucks.

I feel the 7% increase came at a bad time with the recent outcry over the Singapore Ministers' increased pay package.

Singaporeans can't help but feel that their extra 2% is used to fund the increase in Ministers' pay!

Get you facts straight. Canada do not have states.
And GST is 8%

Hi Kim Teo,
Think I typed too fast and use the word state. I should have used province. I recalled checking a site with a generic table listing all the various GST charges for USA and Canada. My error.

Please check out http://www.johncletheroe.org/usa_can/taxes/index.htm

The short answer is that it varies among the provinces (depending if you classify the provincial tax as part of th sales tax) and there is a tax on tax element that can reach 8% in Quebec and higher/lower in other places. I dont think there is a fixed component through out.

And relax, this is NOT an inland revenue site and I fully disclosed my limitations in this area (if you read my subsequent postings). As a businessman, tax is painful to me and I try hard not to look at it. That bit, i hire someone smarter than me to deal with it.

Harold

In Canada the goods and services tax or GST is a federal tax of six percent on most goods and services sold in Canada for domestic consumption. Some goods and services are exempt from the GST, for example basic groceries, prescription drugs and exports.

The poor folk like me are struggling to cope with 2% GST increase in my basic groceries and medicine.

I do not wear Armani shirt instead wear 3 for $10 shirts which i bought from night market, I donot wear Nike shoe instead <=$15 'Made in China' brand shoes, I do not eat at restaurant instead cook at home and packets my meal to work. I don't drink Coke instead drink tap water. I don't own a flat instead rent a two room flat. I try no to go doctor when sick instead eat panadol and wish the my sick go away. I no internet, no computer instead use the one in library.

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